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| Author: | Dirtrider [ Mon Jul 20, 2015 3:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Anyone wanna ride MTRP and beyond today? |
From SDMBA: VERY IMPORTANT - PLEASE FORWARD TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW!!! SDMBA was contacted today by MCAS Miramar regarding an enforcement change. Military police on MCAS Miramar have started detaining civilian trespassers found on federal property. People found on the property will be detained (with the possible use of handcuffs) and transported back to military police headquarters on MCAS Miramar. If bikers are apprehended, their bikes will be held as evidence. Once processed and issued a federal citation for trespassing, the civilian will be brought to the base perimeter and released (not the location where the civilian was apprehended). While the fines start at several hundred dollars, the further loss of a bike is extreme. Since 2006, there has been a rifle range in the area known as East Miramar. This range is actively used (hot) year-round. It is used almost everyday throughout the week and on most weekends. Civilians have continually been sighted on the ridgeline behind the targets while the range is hot. The Marines train with M-16's and other high velocity rifles. If aimed above the ridge line, these types of rounds have the ability to go thousands of feet beyond the ridge. There are also several active pistol ranges and an explosive ordnance disposal range where ordnance is detonated. Unexploded ordnance is also scattered throughout East Miramar. This area was used for artillery training starting in WWI and continuing through the Korean War. Recently, all military installations have raised their security level to Bravo, including MCAS Miramar. These means an increase of security on every part of the property, including East Miramar. If you have any questions, you are welcome to call the Community Plans and Liaison Office at MCAS Miramar at (858) 577-6603. SDMBA is actively working with the military, city and county regarding the lack of legal trails. Fortunately the government and agencies are starting to realize the lack of legal trails is leading to greater conflict and environmental damage. This is producing results such as new trail in Crest Ecological Reserve, new trail at Black Mountain, soon to be approved new legal access (with extensive work from MTC) in in Del Mar Mesa. We are also partnering with the city, county, US Fish and Wildlife, CA Fish and Wildlife in other plans such as the Mission Trails Master Plan Update (many miles of new trail!), Sweetwater, and Tijuana River to name a few. We are also working and having dialog with developers pushing for trails to be included in new community plans BEFORE any dirt is shoveled. With more and more people moving to San Diego, having a county wide trails plan is the only viable option. However this cannot be done without the help and support of the community! We need YOU to join us! If you are not a member of SDMBA, please go to www.sdmba.com and become a member right away. This is only the first step. More importantly is to get involved. There is no better venue than our monthly advocacy meeting. We meet the first Monday of the month, 6-8:30pm. For more information go tohttp://sdmba.com/…/event/sdmba-advocacy-committee-meeting-3/ Please don't be the person who experiences how serious the Marines are! Forward this to everyone you know and get involved today! |
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| Author: | tfitz [ Mon Jul 20, 2015 3:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Anyone wanna ride MTRP and beyond today? |
I have not rode there since he declared Martial Law. |
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| Author: | Ray Dolor [ Mon Jul 20, 2015 3:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Anyone wanna ride MTRP and beyond today? |
I joked about this before......we are the new "insurgents". I hope nobody in our mtb community gets busted by the marines, but I also hope that nobody is buffaloed by these claims. How many mtb riders have actually been injured by live fire or ordnance on those trails, which also happen to be the really GOOD trails, not the ridge top fire roads. For now, of course, the best thing to do is to just stay off their land, but never lose sight that these safety claims are not based on actual evidence, as in injuries or deaths inflicted on riders. For many years, nothing has actually happened out there. And a big thank you is due from us to our local media, who have swallowed this tripe, hook line and sinker. Since most of our local folks accept their "reporting" as gospel, they have once again been given a distorted picture of the situation. |
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| Author: | Ray Dolor [ Mon Jul 20, 2015 4:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Anyone wanna ride MTRP and beyond today? |
tfitz wrote: I have not rode there since he declared Martial Law. Me neither. Miramar was a much friendlier place when the Navy held it, and the Marines provided security as directed by the Navy commander. |
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